Citi 'Negative' On Subprime Mortgages As Early As 2006, Yet Firm Continued To Pump Out Subprime Mortgage Products (VIDEO)

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A top Citigroup official testified Wednesday that the firm was reducing its risk to subprime mortgage products as early as 2006, fully expecting housing prices to decline. Yet a review of industry figures shows that in 2007 Citi was still underwriting billions in subprime mortgage securities and was the nation's top lender of subprime mortgages.

It also purchased insurance on those holdings in 2007 in the form of credit default swaps in case they soured, regulatory filings show.

"We were negative on subprime, as a matter," Thomas Maheras, the bank's former trading chief, who served as co-CEO of Citi Markets and Banking, told the panel created by Congress to investigate the roots of the financial crisis. "We were, from the very earliest part of '07 and the end of '06, we were in most of our business areas reducing our risk around subprime."

Yet despite the firm's efforts to mitigate those risks as early as 2006, Citigroup, which is about 27 percent owned by taxpayers in the wake of the 2008 bailout, still proceeded to originate an estimated $19.7 billion in subprime mortgages, according to Inside Mortgage Finance, a leading trade publication whose data is used extensively by the federal government. Citigroup was the nation's top subprime mortgage lender that year, according to Guy Cecala, CEO and publisher of Inside Mortgage Finance.

Citigroup also underwrote $13.4 billion in subprime mortgage securities that year, according to Cecala's data. All told, the firm generated more than $33 billion in subprime mortgage products that year.

But the firm knew that the housing market was deteriorating, Maheras told the Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission.

"We weren't sitting there twiddling our thumbs and assuming that housing could never go down," said Maheras, now a partner at Tegean Capital Management, LLC, and a director at Discover Financial Services. "We had in our base case that housing was going down during '07 and would likely continue."

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A senior administration official tells the Huffington Post that it's this very kind of activity that the administration hopes to address in its attempt to reform the financial system. The proposed consumer financial protection agency is one way to address this, the official said.

"You want an agency looking at it from a consumer perspective," the official explained. The examiners for the proposed agency, which would not be beholden to concerns about the bank's profitability, would be empowered to ensure that banks aren't "writing policies or products that [the banks] don't really believe in."

A Citigroup spokesman declined to comment.

Unfortunately for the banking behemoth, while parts of it were trying to minimize its exposure to subprime, that effort apparently didn't filter throughout the company.

Rising mortgage delinquencies and defaults finally took their toll -- the subprime market came to a crashing halt by the end of 2007. Securitization of subprime mortgages all but dried up by the end of the year, a situation that continues to the present.

"Remember, the subprime lending business collapsed at the end of 2006 and all lenders were retreating in 2007," Cecala said.

Citigroup didn't securitize any subprime mortgage loans in 2007, according to data maintained by Inside Mortgage Finance.

"Unlike most other subprime lenders, Citi held their subprime originations in portfolio," Cecala said, meaning that Citi held onto those assets.

The firm originated $38 billion worth of subprime mortgages in 2006.

Over the past two days, the Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission has publicly grilled current and former top Citi officials over their roles in orchestrating and directing one of the biggest disasters on Wall Street. Taxpayers pumped $45 billion into Citigroup to keep it afloat, tying it for third place along with Bank of America on the list of the biggest private recipients of public cash during the bailout of 2008 (not counting Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, which were government-sponsored entities).

Commissioners questioned whether Citi was too big to manage, and made clear that the firm appeared to have operated with a silo-like mentality -- different parts of the company weren't communicating with other parts. Warnings were apparently ignored, like the one issued by Richard Bowen, former chief underwriter for Citigroup's consumer-lending unit, who said he discovered in mid-2006 that more than 60 percent of mortgages bought from other firms and sold to investors were "defective."

Commissioners bristled when former and current Citi officials said the firm wasn't too big to manage.

Citigroup lost nearly $30 billion over the past two years, according to regulatory filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. The U.S. government guaranteed much of the potential losses on a $301 pool of toxic assets, giving the firm significant breathing room by putting taxpayers on the hook. Citigroup has issued nearly $65 billion in Federal Deposit Insurance Corp.-guaranteed debt, a little-noticed bailout for banks that lets them borrow money cheaply while putting taxpayers on the hook for potential losses.

Charles "Chuck" Prince, the firm's CEO from 2004 to 2007, told the panel Thursday that he was "deeply sorry that our management -- starting with me -- was not more prescient and that we did not foresee what lay before us."

While Prince personally apologized, he defended the firm's conduct on Thursday and he said that Citi is not too big to manage.

But in interviews with the commission's staff, Prince was much more forthcoming.
"I believe that in hindsight, the lack of adequate regulation of the origination of mortgages created a situation where the demand side, the pull side of that equation, found a place where more raw material could be created than could be created safely," he said. "So that as more and more of these subprime mortgages were created as raw material for the securitization process, not surprisingly in hindsight more and more of it was lower and lower quality.

"At the end of that process, the raw material going into it was actually bad quality, it was toxic quality, and that is what ended up coming out the other end of the pipeline. Wall Street obviously participated in that flow of activity."

Prince said he found out about much of this "toxic" activity near the end of his term. Apparently, he wasn't in the loop.

"I found out at the end of my tenure, I did not know it before, that we had some warehouse lines out to some originators," Prince told the panel's staff. "And I think getting that close to the origination function being that involved in the origination of some of these products is something that I wasn't comfortable with and that I did not view as consistent with the prescription I had laid down for the company not to be involved in originating these products."

One of the reasons that these risky activities weren't stopped earlier was the fact that the firm had so many different regulators, the senior administration official said. The Federal Reserve regulated the bank holding company; the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency oversaw the national bank; the Securities and Exchange Commission regulated the broker-dealer part of the firm; and the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation also regulated the banking parts of the firm.

Having so many different regulators -- with each one looking at different aspects -- can result in a "potential for massive failures in supervision," said the official. That's exactly what happened, top regulators concede.

And that's part of the reason why the administration is pushing for the Fed to have much greater supervisory authority over systemically important firms like Citigroup, the official explained.

As for units of a firm betting one way while other units take the opposite position -- like what happened at Citigroup when it came to subprime mortgages -- "that's why you have a consumer agency to ride along with the prudential regulator," the official said. You want independent examiners looking out for less sophisticated investors, the official said.

But difficulties may still arise if there's a market for those products. If there are investors or other parties that want to buy certain products, like subprime mortgage-backed securities, it may be difficult for a regulator to tell a bank to not make that sale and ignore that potential profit.

"Trading is a very different perspective than lending. The investment or trading arm of Citi may have been 'negative' on subprime but that doesn't mean the lending unit has stopped making the loans," Cecala said. "There was a lot of demand for -- and high fees to be made off of -- subprime loans in 2007. Citi may not have been buying or trading much in subprime MBS [mortgage-backed securities], but they were continuing to originate and hold subprime loans in portfolio. Those are two different units and businesses."

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BillMcDermott   08:17 PM on 4/14/2010
My research for a presentati­on I did to the Georgia Society of CPA's was that many investment banking firms did go to the SEC for special approval to leverage their balance sheets in purchasing subprime mortgages and the SEC approved. Obviously, the credit default swap risk was never monitored by the appropriat­e regulators and the underlying credit risk was never properly collateral­ized.
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PhilipTaylor   04:50 PM on 4/12/2010
US TAXPAYER IS SUPPORTING THIS SCAM BY CITI+G0LDM­AN+JPM+M0R­GAN+BofA

THEY BET AGAINST THE "AMERICAN DREAM!"

THEY BET AGAINST AMERICANS TO MAKE $BILLIONS!

http://vim­eo.com/108­15824

http://www­.thisameri­canlife.or­g/
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macweenie   12:56 AM on 4/13/2010
Here's something funny: I have a friend whose ex-wife was imprisoned for embezzling about $15,000.

Just saying.
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YMBM   12:30 PM on 4/12/2010
Citigroup subprime mortgage was a scam. The CEO new exactly what they were doing and are trying to pass the buck on the rating companies. That is a joke, when the various bonds or trenches were packaged and a low rating was received, the organizati­on would take the previous bonds that were packaged with low quality loans and replace them with those that were rated slightly higher to get their triple a ratings. So yes, the system was manipulate­d across the board!!

And to prove my position, sample 100 different bonds in a three to six months period that were submitted to the rating agencies and you will see a correlatio­n of loans that were previously submitted within a different package that did not make but made it during the second and third attempt.
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KeyInfo   06:13 PM on 4/11/2010
Dude deserves some serious prison time away from his family! He's a criminal.
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aflyinyoursoup   05:10 PM on 4/11/2010
So Chucky says,"..."­I found out at the end of my tenure, I did not know it before, that we had some warehouse lines out to some originator­s..."

BUT

"Citi is NOT too big to manage"...­.

Are these financial CEO types M0r0ns or just liars?
chappelforpres   12:03 AM on 4/11/2010
Big banks = organized crime. Rico statues with broad reach back provisions­. Grand jury indictment­s w small fry immunity in exchange for testimony. One or two very believable whistle blowers might list this barge of unintellig­ible BS.
banker67   09:41 PM on 4/10/2010
To echo others: Why should anyone believe a single word these greed-head­s say?
Literally, lying could be worth trillions of taxpayer dollars to these men so why in the world would they hesitate to lie outright, especially since they know perfectly well no one will ever hold them accountabl­e for any false statement.
Does anyone seriously think the Justice Department would prosecute a multi-mill­ionaire banker for lying on the record? It's never happened in my lifetime, and I can't see how it will in the future.
No matter what these men say, they will effortless­ly get away with the most massive theft of tax dollars in U.S. history and put all their loot in a tax-free UBS 'foreign' bank account that the IRS somehow can't touch due to legalisms understood only by three anonymous Swiss travel agents.
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KevinFitzz   03:11 PM on 4/10/2010
There is no end to their greed.
dukeitout   02:29 PM on 4/10/2010
These guys are such liars. But as in any good organizati­on they all tell the same lies. Credit default swaps is where they really counted on making the big bucks because they knew the mortgage bonds were loaded with junk. If the bonds were good they would make money; but if they defaulted they would make billions and billions and billions more. The trick was to create a bond and unload it quickly, to any poor unsuspecti­ng individual or community or country. They are no better than Madoff.
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thinking4   01:30 PM on 4/10/2010
It stills stuns the rational mind that the banks that perpetuate­d this massive fraud on the public, still do not care who they hurt. They do not want to see the debris th left in their wake. Most people did buy a house in good faith, only to see the their properrty worth, in present dollars, much less tha what they paid. Decent hardworkin­g people were destroyed and the heads of these TBTF simply get to walk away. They should be made to travel to the scene of their crimes and see neighborho­ods devastated by the subprime debacle. Most would most likely not care but if only one turned his illgotten gains over to a charity, it would be worthwhile­.
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neoconcriminals   11:52 AM on 4/10/2010
Sad irony that these bankers will get off scott free but the dad robbing the Radio Shack with the kid
in tow will go to prison.

American Justice!
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DD2005   10:04 AM on 4/10/2010
And yet, nobody has gone to jail for the biggest bank robbery in the history of the modern world. These banksters knew they were packaging garbage and continued to take home billions of dollars in bonuses for their funny accounting practices.

Stop spending money on useless inquiries that will never amount to anything. Tjhey are throwing good money after bad. We all know that they all perpetrate­d this fraud and were all somehow involved knowing that they were lending to non-credit worthy individual­s, holding a ton of off balance sheet transactio­ns, packaging them off, getting AAA Status ratings for the corrupt rating agencies and selling them off to investors, nations, government­s et al that didn't know any better because they came with the AAA stamp of approval.

If they are not going to use these inquiries to put people behind bars then stop wasting money. They are already back to their old tricks, (4,000 DOW Points in a year in the midst of the worst recesscion since the Great Depression­) uusing free FED money to pad their coffers once again.

It is a joke. We've all been fleeced and these pointless exercises aren't going to cause real change.

Citi, JPM, Goldman et al are all guilty of fleecing the taxpayer and Government­. It is so obvious to all exdept for those involved.
banker67   12:15 PM on 4/10/2010
Agree. This is just airing all the prepostero­us legalisms that confuse issues and scare away prosecutor­s.
It's trying to convict the top 100 mobsters for fleeing the scene of their trillion-d­ollar heist in a limo with an expired inspection sticker.
We're all terribly interested in who failed to measure emissions properly, overlooked an under-infl­ated tire or missed a faulty blinker, but at this point we're kind of more interested in who the thieves are, how much they took and which regulators left the front door of the U. S. Treasury wide open for a very exclusive mob of ruthless thieves.
Not that that under-infl­ated tire isn't absolutely fascinatin­g.
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hottpotat0   04:23 PM on 4/12/2010
HEAR HEAR !!!
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PhilipTaylor   12:13 AM on 4/10/2010
LETS GET THIS THING CLEAR:

They PLANNED THE WHOLE THING - TWO SCENARIOS:

1. 2002 BUSH OWNERSHIP "SUB-PRIME ALT-A" SOCIETY WITH FANNIE/FRE­DDIE ENLISTED TO BUY THE JUNK to GET TI STARTED BUT WALL STREET PACKAGED WITH INTENT TO SELL TO SUCKERS AS FAKED "AAA" RATED "TREASURY QUALITY" THAT THEY COULD THEN PLACE MASSIVE CASINO BETS ON THAT THE PRODUCTS WOULD FAIL!

2. NOTHING ELSE HAS ANY LOGIC TO IT!
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PhilipTaylor   12:15 AM on 4/10/2010
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PhilipTaylor   12:17 AM on 4/10/2010
Don't forget the MASSIVE HIDDEN DERIVATIVE­S FEES THAT FED THE M0NSTER BONUSES!
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hottpotat0   04:23 PM on 4/12/2010
bingo!
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PhilipTaylor   12:08 AM on 4/10/2010
Time-line: Bush-WallS­treet Corrupt Housing Crisis

Graph= http://www­.mortgagec­alculator.­org/images­/us-subpri­me-mortgag­e-market-g­rowth.png
2002=Video­: Younger Bush Pushing "EasyLoans­" on Minorities
2002=Bush http://www­.youtube.c­om/watch?v­=kNqQx7sjo­S8&feature­=related
2002=Bush Enlisted Investment Banks issue "EASY SURE FAIL" Mortgages
2002=Bush Proclaims Enlisted Fannie/Fre­ddie to buy Garbage Mortgages
2002 FED+BushAd­min=high priority on "financial innovation­"+Bush"s "0wnership­Society"
2002 FED=Used housing boom to prop up economy after 2000 market collapse
2002 FED governor=w­arned: lenders breeding fast-growi­ng risky mortgages
2002 FED examiners=­investigat­e mortgage lenders of WSBanks
2003+2004=­FED analyst: deteriorat­ing lending standards+­higher defaults+ foreclosur­es
2003+2004=­FED encourage developmen­t of alternativ­e mortgages=­sub-prime loans+ adjustable
2004=Compt­roller Curr (OCC) used 1863Law=pr­event enforcemen­t state predatory lending laws
2004=OCC=p­revent enforcing consumer protection laws against Big Banks
2004=Link: http://www­.nakedcapi­talism.com­/2008/02/s­pitzer-bus­h-administ­ration-blo­cked.html
2007=FED+F­DIC+OCC=is sue guide=No new loans to poor after 'teaser' rates expire 2-3 years
2007=FED+F­DIC+OCC=Bl­ock Half of Subprime borrowers from refinancin­g=Insure Casino Bets
2007=FED decisions=­Help Banks win Casino Bets
2007-2009=­20-30% Subprime didn't meet Refi thresholds­,But 70-80% would without new rules
2007-2009=­2Million teaser-rat­e loans expired without ref: http://www­.bloomberg­.com/apps/­news?pid=2­0601087&re­fer=worldw­ide&sid=ag­NUe.4oR6mc
2002-2008=­Graph of Housing Bubble showing straight up line 2003-2007
2007=Bubbl­e fed by "EasySureF­AIL" Mortgages BURST creating CRISIS
2008=Green span=sayin­g FED ill-equipp­ed to investigat­e deceptive lending=Fa­lse
2009=Green­span consulting gig PIMCO+asse­t manager GSE mortgages+­senior bondholder
BushOwners­hipSociety­: http://en.­wikipedia.­org/wiki/O­wnership_s­ociety
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PhilipTaylor   12:03 AM on 4/10/2010
Peterson Rockefelle­r Brookings Clinton Rubin Summers

PART OF THE GANG THAT STOLE ABOUT $3 TRILLION OUT OF THE SOCIAL SECURITY FUND and NOW WANTS TO WIPE OUT THE REST SIMPLY TO AVOID A HIGHER TAX ON THEIR THEFT INCOMES!

http://www­.muckety.c­om/15624D6­19B0157913­54312F6E31­05CD1.map

http://www­.muckety.c­om/C192399­0B447BAF36­A42BED0137­77531.map

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