Geithner Admits Regulatory Failures, Reiterates Support For Empowering Regulators


First Posted: 05- 7-10 01:00 PM   |   Updated: 07- 7-10 05:12 AM

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Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner and the Federal Reserve's longest-serving top official reiterated their calls Thursday to rein in the nation's financial firms. But the two split on how they'd go about doing it.

In short, Geithner said he wants to give regulators more authority, leaving it up to them to exercise their best judgment. Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City President Thomas Hoenig wants firm rules so the financial system doesn't have to rely solely on the wisdom of regulators.

During an appearance on Capitol Hill, Geithner acknowledged failures in the Federal Reserve Bank of New York's supervision of Citigroup and other large banks, said regulators were "not conservative enough" when it came to overseeing banks' leverage ratios and criticized capital requirements as not having done a "good enough job" as a buffer against risk. Geithner pressed his case for why financial reform is needed now, mentioning the Obama administration's efforts to restrict leverage.

He also said that regulators like himself could have done more to prevent the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression. "I do not believe we were powerless," Geithner said about his fellow regulators.

To ensure these kinds of failures are avoided in the future, Hoenig wants firm rules governing leverage and capital written into law. Geithner doesn't.

Like the pending financial reform bill in the Senate, Geithner wants to leave it up to federal regulators -- the same ones that presided over the housing bubble, oversaw extreme risk-taking by banks and other financial firms, and tried (yet failed) to contain a subprime crisis from mushrooming into a financial meltdown.

"I have spent more than 36 years at the Federal Reserve deeply involved in bank supervision, and it has been apparent to me for some time that our nation's financial institutions must have firm and easily understood leverage requirements," Hoenig said in prepared remarks Thursday before a House of Representatives subcommittee hearing. "Leverage tends to rise when the economy is strong as investors and lenders forget past mistakes and believe that prosperity will always continue. If we don't institute rules now to contain leverage, another crisis is inevitable."

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Leverage refers to the use of debt to increase a firm's assets without a corresponding increase in capital.

"The leverage at banking organizations has risen steadily since the mid-1990s, but was not immediately obvious because of the many different ways capital and leverage can be measured," Hoenig said. "In my judgment, the most fundamental measure of a financial institution's capital is to exclude intangible assets and preferred shares and focus only on tangible common equity -- that is ownership capital actually available to absorb losses and meet obligations.


"Looking at tangible common equity, you see that leverage for the entire banking industry rose from $16 of assets for each dollar of capital in 1993 to $25 for each dollar of capital in 2007. More striking perhaps, this aggregate ratio was driven most significantly by the 10 largest banking companies. At these firms, assets rose from 18 times capital to 34 over the same period, and that does not include their off-balance sheet activities.

"These numbers, in my opinion, reflect two essential points. First, that based on capital levels, the 10 largest banking organizations carried fundamentally riskier balance sheets at the start of this crisis than the industry as a whole. Second, their greater leverage reflects a significant funding cost advantage. Not only is debt cheaper than equity, but their debt was cheaper than for smaller organizations because creditors were confident these firms were too big to be allowed to fail.

"This was a gross distortion of the marketplace, providing these firms an advantage in making profits, enabling them to build size, and then, in the end, leaving others to suffer the pain of their collapse. This is not capitalism, but exploitation of an unearned advantage. And the list of victims is long, including families who lost homes, workers who lost jobs, and taxpayers who
were left to pay the tab."

...

"The point is that institutions got away from the fundamental principles of sound management. And those institutions with the highest leverage suffered the most. Financial panic and economic havoc quickly followed. The process of deleveraging is underway, rebuilding capital has begun, but during this rebuilding loans are harder to get, which is impeding the economic recovery.

"With this very painful lesson fresh in our minds, now is the time to act.

"I strongly support establishing hard leverage rules that are simple, understandable and enforceable and that apply equally to all banking organizations that operate in the United States.

"As we saw in the years before the crisis, leverage tends to rise during economic expansions as past mistakes are forgotten, and pressure for growth and higher return on equity mounts.

"Straightforward leverage and underwriting rules require bankers to match increases in assets with increases in capital and prevent disputes with bank examiners over 'interpretations' of the rules.

"As a result, excess is constrained, and a countercyclical force is created that moderates booms and forms a cushion when the next recession occurs.

"I firmly believe that had such rules been in place, we would have been spared a good part of the tremendous hardship the American people have gone through during the past two years."

Geithner, on the other hand, said financial firms "need more requirements on leverage" during testimony before the Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission, but didn't specify beyond that. He noted in his prepared remarks that regulators lacked proper authority to rein in financial firms' excessive risk-taking and inadequate capital levels.

However, regulators did have that authority -- they could have, on an individual basis, told firms to rein it in. The regulatory agencies could have issued rules compelling compliance. And all of these recommendations could have been backed up with credible threats allowed by law.

The problem, in hindsight, is that none of these tools were used effectively. Geithner was asked about that.

Heather Murren, a former Wall Street executive who now serves on the financial crisis panel, quizzed Geithner about the New York Fed's supervision of Citigroup. The commission on Thursday released internal Fed reports that criticized the New York Fed's supervision of large banks.

Geithner led the Fed from 2003 until his appointment as Treasury Secretary early last year.

Citing the internal reports, Murren noted that Geithner's New York Fed bank regulators had "insufficient resources" for "continuous supervision" of megabanks.

At one bank, which Murren identified as being Citigroup, the Fed examiners were inundated with tasks that kept "the team from fully completing its continuous supervision activities."

"The result is that there are insufficient resources to conduct continuous supervision activities in a consistent manner," the May 2005 report noted. "Not having sufficient staff to sustain continuous supervision activities on the...[team] may result in late reaction to address emerging risk areas within the [megabank's] portfolio."

Murren asked Geithner if he agreed with that assessment.

"I was very concerned in looking at our mix of responsibilities at those bank holding companies about the burden imposed by a range of what you might call compliance obligations -- consumer protection, CRA [Community Reinvestment Act], Bank Secrecy Act -- very important policy instruments... we were charged with enforcing through regulation, and the burden those imposed relative to the resources we had to also do... the more difficult tasks... [like] safety and soundness," Geithner said.

"I do not think we did enough as an institution with the authority we had to help contain the risks that ultimately emerged in that institution," Geithner admitted of the New York Fed's supervision over Citigroup.


Source: Thursday testimony of Thomas M. Hoenig, President of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City

"Maybe part of it is about resources," he acknowledged. But a "more fundamental problem" was that regulators were "operating with a set of rules that did not compel firms to hold enough capital against the risks they were taking.

"That's why I believe it's so important in this reform process that we rely not so much on the discretion of supervisors to force more than the framework forces," Geithner added. Policymakers need to "try to get the rules better" so "you're not forced with the risk that these very capable [bank examiners]" are so heavily relied upon.

"You don't want the system to rely on their ability to force firms to be more conservative than the rules require," said Geithner.


Source: Thursday testimony of Thomas M. Hoenig, President of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City

That's why Hoenig wants firm rules in law. Yet while the Treasury Secretary said "[t]he proposed reforms will require the enforcement of more conservative capital and leverage requirements on the activities, whether on or off balance sheet, of all major financial institutions," that's not something new -- regulators could have done it all along. And the main Senate legislation, authored by Senate Banking Committee Chairman Christopher Dodd (D-Conn.), does not specify the degree to which regulators will be forced to up their standards.

"I strongly support establishing hard leverage rules that are simple, understandable and
enforceable and that apply equally to all banks and bank holding companies that operate in the United States," Hoenig said Thursday.

"For an example of the power of a hard leverage rule, consider the impact on assets and/or equity of restricting bank holding companies to holding no more than $15 of tangible assets for every $1 of tangible equity capital.

"As I noted, at the end of 2007, the 10 largest bank holding companies held $34 of tangible assets for every $1 of tangible equity capital. If the maximum leverage ratio was 15:1, these companies would have had to reduce their assets by $4.9 trillion (56 percent), increase their tangible common equity by $326 billion (125 percent), or some combination of the two," Hoenig said.

An amendment to Dodd's bill sponsored by Sens. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio) and Ted Kaufman (D-Del.) that would have capped leverage ratios at about 16-to-1 failed Thursday night. Twenty-seven Democrats, including Dodd, voted against it.


READ the Fed's 2005 internal report on the New York Fed:


New York Fed's Supervision of Large Banks - 2005 Report


READ the Fed's 2009 internal report on the New York Fed:


New York Fed's Supervision of Large Banks - 2009 Report
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munki   11:36 AM on 5/10/2010
Finally - the admission - if some of us had social skills, connection and power...

Our voice would have been heard 2-3 decades ago - commencing with Executive Compensati­on to Ratings used as tool to lure investors (despite un-explain­able contents of portfolio)­...

If you cannot explain how it works or how could it be rated or analyzed - there's quality questions. I like Elizabeth Warren as she can explain things she knows well and do not try to explain things she does not know.
LizM   06:37 PM on 5/10/2010
Well, you can be thankful that it was Timothy Geithner at the helm, and not Elizabeth Warren, of the fire brigade putting out this particular fire.

Elizabeth Warren is an intelligen­t women but she had no idea how to stabilze the financial system in the wake of this global financial crisis.
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Acharn   06:45 AM on 5/11/2010
it's not obvious Geithner did, either. The guy to praise, or blame, was Henry Paulson, Bush's Secretary of the Treasury, and Ben Bernanke who both did things that I'm pretty sure were clearly illegal, and probably immoral and fattening as well.
chamberedcommerce   01:47 AM on 5/10/2010
Geithner's testimony and comments are long overdue. It has been eight years of the Bush Era and Delay Era when government regulation­s were undone. And where has that got us? BP?
Massey? Derivative­s? Health care mess?

Now the banking industry is lobbying against regulating derivative­s:

http://www­.nytimes.c­om/2010/05­/10/busine­ss/10lobby­.html?hp

And with the health care the same is going on there as well:

http://kru­gman.blogs­.nytimes.c­om/2010/03­/17/demons­-and-demon­ization/

http://www­.cjr.org/t­he_audit/r­euters_is_­excellent_­in_diggin.­php
LizM   06:25 AM on 5/10/2010
Actually, Geithner has been testifying about all of this for a very, very long time - there is nothing 'long overdue' about it!

In fact, he has been talking about regulatory failures since long before this financial crisis began.

And, to be fair, you can't just single out Republican administra­tions - pay attention!
LizM   10:52 PM on 5/09/2010
Since this HP reporter has so misinterpr­eted Secretary Geithner's testimony before the Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission and given that so many comments here have accepted this reporting as being accurate, I would like to provide the link here to the complete video testimony of Secretary Geithner for easy access in an effort to set this very important record straight ...

http://www­.c-span.or­g/Watch/Me­dia/2010/0­5/09/HP/R/­32695/TREA­SURY+SEC+B­ANK+OVERSI­GHT+WAS+FU­NDAMENTALL­Y+INADEQUA­TE.aspx
LizM   10:24 PM on 5/09/2010
While I did not hear the testimony given by Thomas Hoenig, I did hear the prepared opening remarks and the entire testimony given by Secretary Geithner.

Clearly, this blogger has completely mischaract­erized Geithner's testimony. Actually, it's worse than that! Geithner said the exact opposite of what this blogger suggests in the quote below.

How is it possible to get something this fundamenta­l so wrong?


>In short, Geithner said he wants to give regulators more authority, leaving it up to them to exercise their best judgment. Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City President Thomas Hoenig wants firm rules so the financial system doesn't have to rely solely on the wisdom of regulators­.
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ConservativeAmerica   01:49 PM on 5/09/2010
So wait, what Tax Cheat Timmy is saying is that they are bad at their jobs yet they want more power or more authority?

You have proven yourselves incompeten­t. Why should you get any more power or authority or anything else.
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DDKAHALAS   08:23 PM on 5/09/2010
Now this is really funny Geitner wanting to empower regulators­. No Geitner empowers bought off regulators­......
LizM   06:33 AM on 5/10/2010
You know what's really funny?

Well, it would be laughable - if it wasn't so pathetic - how so many people around here can think that they know so much about something when they actually know so very little. Which can be easily gleaned from their asinine comments ... super user status, notwithsta­nding.
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harmonicrat   08:17 AM on 5/09/2010
I believe this crisis was engineered­. Money does not evaporate. It changes hands. The next theft has been engineered and lobbyists are following the blueprints­. If we don't remain vocal and vote on relevant issues, our representa­tives will serve as the contractor­s, again.
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DDKAHALAS   08:24 PM on 5/09/2010
I agree this was a plan to give our Treasury to the Banksters.­..
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PhilipTaylor   01:29 AM on 5/09/2010
SKIM SKIM SKIM SKIM SKIM - WHOOPS MY CLIENTS LOSE!

On Video at 18:20 Mark:
http://www­.youtube.c­om/watch?v­=ed2FWNWwE­3I&feature­=player_em­bedded

“Making Money! Making Money! Making Money! Every Year You’re Making Money! And then one year YOU BL0W-UP! Now the Difference between this being your money and this being a Hedge Fund, is if this is your money you make the money and then your are down here and bankrupt!

If it is somebody else’s money like a hedge fund’s, every year they are taking a nice percentage a profit as their bonus effectivel­y so they make nice gains every year into there own bank account and then when they lose money that is their CLIENTS’ MONEY, not their money so you can see why it is very easy for people to ABUSE this kind of thing!”
holyghostie   11:47 PM on 5/08/2010
Typical ploy of the Corporatis­ts. Put a dunce in charge of key regulatory functions.­.
PerKurowski   06:21 PM on 5/08/2010
All those financial and regulatory experts who kept mum when they should have spoken out on the financial crisis about to happen are now, quite effectivel­y, circling their wagons. In order to benefit from the lessons we must learn, they should not be allowed to succeed.

On October 19, 2004, as an Executive Director of the World Bank (2002-2004­) I presented a written formal statement at the Board and that included the following:

“We [I] believe that much of the world’s financial markets are currently being dangerousl­y overstretc­hed through an exaggerate­d reliance on intrinsica­lly weak financial models that are based on very short series of statistica­l evidence and very doubtful volatility assumption­s.”

And I was no investment banker, nor a regulator, nor an investor, and so to me it is clear that all of them, had they done their job right, should have known… and that this crisis should have been nipped in the bud much earlier, as the real explosion in truly bad mortgages took off in 2004, when the SEC in April delegated the setting of the capital requiremen­ts for the investment banks to the Basel Committee, and the G10 in June approved Basel II.

PS. I am putting up a document that resumes most of what I said before and during my term as an ED. You can find the first draft of it in http://bit­.ly/9WrAE0­.
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structurequity   03:46 PM on 5/08/2010
Why did you not label this as a statement by"Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City President Thomas Hoenig" He is the one making the statement of note here, Geithner is simply saying the same old same old. Hoenig is truly stating clearly understand­able policy position for the government to enact and enforce.
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AceNewsServices   11:56 AM on 5/08/2010
Timothy Geithner does not want the financial regulatory authoritie­s to take away his little bit of power and he is hell bent on keeping leverage, to enable him to control what happens in the day to day running of these institutio­ns.
iridium53   11:17 AM on 5/08/2010
Albert Einstein, "“The foundation of morality should not be made dependent on myth nor tied to any authority lest doubt about the myth or about the legitimacy of the authority imperil the foundation of sound judgment and action.”

Also, “The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results”.

Especially when the same people are doing the same things in the same way.

The temptation to bail out the banks will be too great for regulators and politician­s since they've already shown they will bail out the banks and do not have the necessary moral detachment to reinstate Glass-Stea­gall - like rules. Without bright line laws, these individual­s, who have demonstrat­ed themselves to be of very low moral and ethical character, WILL again pay their big company masters with taxpayer money.
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DDKAHALAS   12:36 AM on 5/10/2010
The key is to reinstate Glass-Stea­gall. If they dont do that they do very little. This was the biggest mistake Clinton made other than almost privitizin­g Social Security which was ready before Monica lewinsky scandal stopped that from happening.­..
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PhilipTaylor   12:50 AM on 5/08/2010
LETS SEE NOW - DO WE ALL WANT LEVERAGED CHEATING FOR WALL STREET?

NO! NO GEITHNER!

I MEAN NO MORE GEITHNER! NO MORE "MEALY-MOU­THED WALL STREET LOYAL FLUNKY" WHO ALLOWED 100 CENTS ON THE DOLLAR A1G PASS-THROU­GH TO G0LDMAN AND FOREIGN BANKSTERS!

I would believer Hoenig much more -- who wants firm rules in law.
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Carolab   04:15 AM on 5/08/2010
PT, this one is for YOU.

Presenting your movie of the month:
Quants: The Alchemists of Wall Street

http://www­.youtube.c­om/watch?v­=ed2FWNWwE­3I&feature­=player_em­bedded
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PhilipTaylor   05:23 AM on 5/08/2010
It is what I still do for a living and also what I do in Stock and Options Forecastin­g for myself analyzing 13,500 stocks every night and also options on the best candidates­.

I was making 230,000% to 16,000,000­% annualized in good months until G0LDMAN and Hank Paulson took down the MARKETS for their SCAMS and wiped out most of my portfolio of Options!
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PhilipTaylor   05:29 AM on 5/08/2010
SOFTWARE QUANT TRADING IS LEGAL - NOT LIKE G0LDMAN’S “FR0NT RUNNING” with insider informatio­n and 100% sure PROFIT!
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PhilipTaylor   05:49 AM on 5/08/2010
This is GREAT and it explains how WALL STREET CROOKS used the Models to STEAL!

One of the analysts talks about exactly that -- the the HIDDEN FEES at the 18:20 Mark!

The models were NOT the PROBLEM as much as the MASSIVE HIDDEN FEES used to pay the MODEL Manipulato­rs and the Executives­.

Of course, once Wall Street realized their WHOLE SHIP WAS SINKING they DROVE A STAKE IN THE HEART of the MARKETS using the SUMMERS Shorting SCAMS and every other SHORTING SCAM ON EARTH!

K1LLED COMPANIES, 01L PRICES, HOUSING (of course), JACKED UP FEES and INTEREST RATES ON credit cards and VIRTUALLY SHORTED everything­!

So naturally even the MODELS could NOT ADJUST to a SINKING SHIP!
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WorldisMorphing   09:45 AM on 5/08/2010
Very very good link...Tha­nk you very much.
You've earned a fan....
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Y3rMawm   12:47 AM on 5/08/2010
Further empower those, who caused this crisis, failed to heed the warning signs of the many who saw it coming, and time after time have been show to be asleep at the wheel while fraud was going on under their noses? Yep, that makes sense.

Beavis needs to be wearing stripes, and making license plates.
almost homeless   12:44 AM on 5/08/2010
Why is geithner not in prison with paulson and the rest of the Housing-Bu­bble gang?

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