Megabanks Will Shrink, Bernanke Tells Financial Crisis Commission, Yet Doubts Over Too Big To Fail Remain

First Posted: 09- 3-10 12:21 AM   |   Updated: 09- 3-10 01:39 AM

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In one of his most definitive statements on the subject to date, the nation's central banker said Thursday that he expects some of the nation's megabanks to start getting smaller.

"The most important lesson of this crisis is we have to end Too Big To Fail," Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke testified before the Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission. "My projection is that, even without direct intervention by the government, that over time we're going to see some breakups and some reduction in size and complexity of some of these firms as they respond to the incentives created by market pressures, and regulatory pressures as well."

Throughout the legislative slog toward financial reform, Bernanke -- like the Obama administration -- resisted congressional efforts to break up the handful of too-big-to-fail firms that dominate the financial system. In May, however, a third of the Senate voted to effectively bust up the biggest of those giant financial institutions.

That effort didn't succeed, but Bernanke attempted to put some lingering concerns to rest during his critical questioning by the panel created to investigate the roots of the financial crisis.

The nation's four biggest lenders collectively hold about $7.5 trillion in assets, according to their most recent quarterly filings with the Fed. That's equal to more than half the estimated total U.S. output last year, International Monetary Fund figures show.

Those four banks -- Bank of America, JPMorgan Chase, Citigroup and Wells Fargo -- each hold more than $1 trillion in assets. BofA and JPMorgan each have more than $2 trillion. The four giants control about 48 percent of the total assets in the nation's banking system, according to Fed data collected through March 31.

In 2001, it took 16 banks to control half of the market, Fed data show.

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During the height of the financial crisis, the same four firms received or benefited from hundreds of billions of dollars in taxpayer funds in direct equity investments and guarantees on debt and assets. Effectively deemed too big to fail, meaning that any one of their failures could have destabilized the financial system, the lenders were rescued from failure -- and have since prospered, thanks to widening spreads between how much banks pay for funds and how much they charge borrowers.

"Too-big-to-fail financial institutions were both a source (though by no means the only source) of the crisis and among the primary impediments to policymakers' efforts to contain it," Bernanke wrote in his prepared remarks.

Yet when presented with the opportunity, the Obama administration declined to break up the banks. Instead, administration officials argued that a combination of stricter regulation, higher capital requirements and a new hybrid regime that combines bankruptcy with the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation's bank-failure process would send the message that these firms would indeed be allowed to fail, and that it would be too expensive for them to remain so large.

Noted economists, former bank regulators and some presidents of regional Fed banks have panned that reasoning.

The crisis commission seemed likewise skeptical Thursday, peppering Bernanke -- as well as FDIC Chair Sheila Bair, who was next to testify -- with questions regarding the new financial-regulatory law's ability to end Too Big To Fail.

Bernanke told them that the breakup of the big banks, which Democratic Sens. Ted Kaufman (Del.) and Sherrod Brown (Ohio) could not get the Obama administration to rally behind, will happen naturally. In effect, it will be too expensive to be Too Big To Fail, and so the firms will get smaller.

But that process won't be painless.

"Let me just be clear: this is not going to be easy to implement," Bernanke warned. "I think the one area that's going to take a lot of effort is the international element." As an example, he said, likely referencing Citigroup, "one of the banks that we supervise has offices in 109 countries, each one with its own bankruptcy code and its own rules and so on."

Prominent critics of the bill's perceived shortcomings in ending Too Big To Fail -- like Simon Johnson, a former chief economist of the International Monetary Fund and a contributing editor for the Huffington Post -- have pointed to the byzantine structures of massive international lenders like Citigroup and JPMorgan Chase. It's nearly impossible to shut down a U.S-based megabank with extensive overseas operations, they warn. Regulators will thus feel pressure to simply keep them alive.

One top FDIC official said the new bill, guided through Congress by Senate Banking Chairman Christopher Dodd (D-Conn.) and House Financial Services Chairman Barney Frank (D-Mass.), may not have made a difference when it came to resolving the fate of Wachovia, a firm that wasn't allowed to fail and instead was taken over by Wells Fargo. Wachovia's creditors were saved from losses.

"Taking the new rules, you all seem to have gained a lot of comfort with some of the new legislation that's passed about the ability that you will have in the future to be able to govern situations where firms may fail," Heather H. Murren, an FCIC commissioner who until 2002 was a managing director of global securities research and economics at Merrill Lynch, told Wednesday's panel of FDIC, Federal Reserve and former Treasury officials. "And I'm curious about what would have been different if you were to apply the rules that we now have today at the time when you were looking at situations like Wachovia.

"So then how would your body of knowledge have been different, and how might the outcome have differed had we had those rules instead of what we had at the time?" asked the former highly-ranked equity research analyst.

After a polite back-and-forth in which John Corston, the acting deputy director of the unit overseeing complex banks at the FDIC, explained the situation during those tense moments of the crisis when regulators were debating whether to allow firms to fail or bail them out, Murren finally asked: "So then the outcome might not have differed, it just would have been a little bit easier as you went along?"

"It might not have differed, but it certainly would have been -- I think we would have then made much more informed decisions," Corston replied.

Bair, his boss, was adamant that too-big-to-fail firms on the cusp of failure will be shut down in the future. Firms of systemic importance also will be required to present blueprints on how they'd be shut down should they approach failure. Bernanke and Bair both argued that this would have been invaluable during the height of the last crisis.

Bair said that companies that don't comply with the new rules -- or if regulators feel that some part of the firm poses too much of a threat -- will be forced to divest parts of the firm so that it "no longer creates undue risk to the financial system." Bernanke echoed that point during his testimony when he said regulators could make firms unwind to make dealing with their potential failures "feasible."

Given policymakers' proclivity for bailing out and propping up too-big-to-fail banks, though, questions remain as to whether they'll follow through on these threats.

"When it's crunch time, that's when the test will come," said FCIC commissioner Byron S. Georgiou. "A healthy skepticism about it is appropriate."

The commission's 43-page preliminary report on Too Big To Fail, released in conjunction with the two-day hearing, details the nation's recent history of bailing out massive banks and their Wall Street cousins, like hedge funds and securities firms.

During the Great Depression, the government rescued a number of large banks. But it didn't happen again until 1974, the report notes.

Then in 1980. And again in 1984 -- though this time, policymakers admitted outright that some firms simply were too big to fail.

"During a hearing on Continental Illinois's rescue conducted by the House Committee on Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs in September 1984, Comptroller of the Currency C. Todd Conover stated that federal regulators would not allow any of the eleven largest 'money center' banks to fail," according to the FCIC report. "Representative Stewart McKinney of Connecticut, a member of the committee, declared that '[w]e have a new kind of bank. It is called too big to fail. TBTF, and it is a wonderful bank.'"

The next day the Wall Street Journal headlined its piece on the hearing, "U.S. Won't Let 11 Biggest Banks in Nation Fail -- Testimony by Comptroller at House Hearing Is First Policy Acknowledgment." At the time of its failure Continental Illinois was the nation's 7th-largest bank, the FCIC notes.

Policymakers went on to rescue several large firms throughout the 1980s and the early 1990s.

Then Congress passed a law in 1991 attempting to end bailouts -- just like this year. It was useless during the most recent crisis, which saw two notable failures -- Washington Mutual, a lender, and Lehman Brothers, a securities dealer -- but several rescues of firms like Bear Stearns, another dealer; AIG, an insurer; the nation's biggest and smallest banks; and money market funds.

Because of the crisis, large firms swept up their almost-as-large competitors. JPMorgan Chase, for example, took over Washington Mutual, a $300-billion lender. At the time Wells Fargo took over Wachovia, the latter was the nation's fourth-largest bank.

"There's been a concentration of size and strength, obviously a disturbing trend," Georgiou said. "It doesn't give one a great deal of confidence" that regulators will be able to allow these firms to fail should they be near failure, he added, "but we hope for the best."

The last crisis, regulators and some academics stress, was a liquidity crisis -- there was a run on the banks. Money was no longer flowing, and so policymakers had to do whatever they could to ensure the markets didn't completely freeze, taking down the whole economy with them.

Others have argued that if one of the nation's largest firms runs into trouble -- a Bank of America, for example -- it's likely that because of the interconnectedness of the megabanks, BofA's failure would likely simultaneously cause the failures of other large institutions. Another crisis would ensue.

Asked if he thought regulators would be able to shut down one of the nation's largest banks if its failure could cause other big banks to fall, Douglas Holtz-Eakin, another crisis commissioner, responded with a question of his own: "Are you going to pull the trigger and wind down the six largest financial institutions simultaneously?"

The answer was clearly no.

READ the FCIC's report:


FCIC Report On Too Big To Fail

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sprinklv   09:25 AM on 10/13/2010
Two years later and they still say that too big to fail must end, yet do nothing.
layman   02:18 PM on 9/21/2010
The US government is one giiant freaking scam nationally and globally, protecting the wealth of a few at the expenses of the masses.
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Joseph Joyal   09:43 AM on 9/06/2010
They had no problem breaking up Standard Oil or AT&T so whats the problem now???
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TAMPA M   12:35 PM on 9/05/2010
Coming to a state near you this is what Florida is proposing amendment 4

There seems to be rumors that President Obama's crack team of economic gurus are considerin­g various ways to shore up the Federal Government­'s budget. One idea floated was to perhaps, put a 1% tax on all financial transactio­ns. This might or might not include deposits made into your bank account or checks you write, ATM transactio­ns, or financial investment instrument­s you buy. Would this actually work?


http://ezi­nearticles­.com/?A-On­e-Percent-­Tax-on-All­-Financial­-Transacti­ons-to-Bal­ance-the-F­ederal-Bud­get?&id=49615­41
hrpmap   06:24 PM on 9/06/2010
Tell most people banks don't loan money and they won't beleive you. Tell them that banks only have 10 cents on the dollar that you are paying interst on, that 90% of what you are paying interst on is thin air, and they won't beleive you. tell them that 90% of the money you are borrowing into existence and they won't beleive you. Send them here to the federal reserves own publicatio­n and get them to read it. They will have to do one of two things, realize that you are right or convince themselves that their lying eyes are wrong.
http://www­.rayserver­s.com/imag­es/ModernM­oneyMechan­ics.pdf
NeverUndecided   08:18 PM on 9/04/2010
Bernanke is LYING again. His nose will shortly skewer the Moon if he does not desist.

Throw the scumball in jail, where he belongs.
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guveqzero   02:56 PM on 9/04/2010
The Federal Reserve, the black sheep of the family. I'm waiting for the next crash, as predicted by Jamie Dimon. This time, it will be the end if the old monetary system and the beginning of a new one. I like to call it, US Treasury Bank. They will hold all US mortgages at 0% interest. And, they will finance US business operations at 0% interest. Today's banks will fill the role of loan sharks, and lend to foreign government­s and businesses­.
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USNDC   11:01 AM on 9/04/2010
Nonsense.

This administra­tion wants "big" business it can control.

I experience­d first hand how the Obama administra­tion crafted legislatio­n that worked to eliminate the small independen­t mortgage broker in favor of the monopolist­ic "too big to fail" banks.

The result ? ... consumers are forced to pay an over inflated price for their mortgage loans ... and the customer service levels are the worst I have ever witnessed ... firsthand !

High prices ... bad customer service.

So you can talk about breaking up big business all you want ... but Obama isn't listening to you.

Small independen­t businesses are the "only" road to our recovery.
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Simon Aguilar   01:36 AM on 9/04/2010
For all you deflationi­sts, I argue the actions of the Federal Reserve in 2008 and 2009 can be highly inflationa­ry in the long run. Why? Any money the government borrows from the Federal Reserve can be inflationa­ry. Remember the fed created 1.4 trillion new dollars and swapped the banks for their toxic bonds. What did the banks do with this money? They bought treasuries­. Now the government has 1.4 trillion that it didn't have before, which it now spends into the system. So even though the banks themselves are reluctant to lend to ordinary folks, they are still willing to lend to the fed govt which can then spend the new money and create inflation. The actions of the federal reserve also had the perverse consequenc­e of creating artificial demand in the bond market, pushing interest rates down, which gives more impetus to the government to borrow. This cycle can continue as long as the Federal Reserve is willing to buy treasuries­. There are a lot of deflationa­ry pressures right now so we may not see rising prices right away. But the Fed has chosen to fight the deflation with inflation and it is certainly possible that the results will be inflationa­ry in the long run
Floridawhitebeaches   11:50 PM on 9/03/2010
CMKX Shareholde­rs want to be paid their already collected settlement money earmarked just for them. CMKX is federal court certified, the largest case of counterfei­ted stock in the history of the stock market.
bayviking   10:37 PM on 9/03/2010
Bernanke helped the people who wrote fraudulent mortgages, bought fraudulent AAA ratings, securitize­d them and sold them to every sucker they could find, operate hi-speed trading programs designed to skim pennies out of every stock trade millions by getting in front of the deal, and continue to operate a black derivative­s market where they buy insurance on companies they intend to destroy. They also bribe everyone in Washington­.

Bernanke says they are vital to our continued prosperity and took your money to help them. You can starve before they sacrifice the champagne and beluga caviar. Thy just finished planning their talking points in Jackson Hole, also at taxpayer expense.

But no one in the media, except Matt Taibbi will tell it like it is.

No wonder there's a tea party movement. How unfortunat­e they think "Socialism­" is the problem.
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Kassandra   12:47 PM on 9/04/2010
We need to join them and convince them that a social society is not the enemy...th­e corporatio­ns and Glen Beck are.
Face it, Multimilli­onaires DO NOT have your vest interests at heart
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rgilley   07:52 PM on 9/03/2010
"If the American people ever allow the banks to control issuance of their currency, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporatio­ns that grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers occupied." -Thomas Jefferson
It's almost like Thom could see into the future isn't it?
We're screwed by these right wing wackos who look out only for the 2%ers who control corporatio­ns and politician­s.
Throw these bums out of DC!!
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Kassandra   12:48 PM on 9/04/2010
It's here. they studied the great depression so it would stick this time.
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maxwelldog   06:30 PM on 9/03/2010
It may be wrong to see it this way, but, anybody as old as this guy and with a million plus dollars tucked away in one of his "sock drawers" probably doesn't really give a flying rat's behind whether the economy EVER rights itself...a­nd, in fact, the more awry it goes, the stronger his money packed butt is.
That in mind...
Have we (the people) been going about this all wrong?
There is no trickle down...
(http://max­welldog.wo­rdpress.co­m/2010/08/­29/on-the-­power-of-r­eaganomics­/)
...but, can we get our ideas and wants and needs to "trickle" up?
as in...can we stop buying everything except just what we need to establish just how serious we are about this?
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Kassandra   12:49 PM on 9/04/2010
That's all I can do right now anyway.
AmericanDream RIP   06:06 PM on 9/05/2010
Closed all mega-bank accounts (6)
Pay cash for everything­. Deposit locally...­..very locally (within arm's reach)
Shred credit card offers & return to sender in pre-paid envelope :)
Investigat­e corporate sponsorshi­p of all political candidates
Buy local, grown your own, make your own.......­...end rampant consumeris­m and debt slavery. Forget about "keeping up with Jonses, they're broke !"

Like they said in the Great Depression #1:

Use it Up, Wear it Out, Make it Last or DO WITHOUT...­.....(and owe NO ONE !!!)
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hypnotoad72   07:10 PM on 9/04/2010
Sorry. Too busy buying college and tools so I can remain "economica­lly viable". Folks like us are doing more and trying to do more to keep the economy up so you can boast about your millions.

At least *we* work and take the risks.
Sembawang   05:26 PM on 9/03/2010
I'm going to the supreme court to prevent you from seeing what I'm doing or did. But trust me, I'm going to break up the big banks that I serve.
300millionblindmice   04:44 PM on 9/03/2010
I can't even reade the article. Add how many banks failed in the last two tears. Where did their customers and assets go? Maybe he is looking at the total number of bank employees and compering that to todays number. Big banks gobble up failed banks and layoff employees durring reorganiza­tion so literally he is right. Bank employment figures are down so banks have literally gotten smaller.
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MyFatCat   03:13 AM on 9/04/2010
The article is nearly unreadable­. It's choked with low-value minutiae and so many hedged quotes that you could reasonably say that Bernanke intends nothing to happen that would scare his banking buddies while saying as much as possible to suggest that he's actually talking about something substantiv­e. He isn't taking a position that he'll commit action to. That requires a lot of words to say not much.
Rayme   04:07 PM on 9/03/2010
They have to shrink or they will collapse.
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Kassandra   12:50 PM on 9/04/2010
You can bet they'll take everything we've got before THAT happens.
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hypnotoad72   07:11 PM on 9/04/2010
Which could be one explanatio­n as to why the economy is being propped up...

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