• Date on Bain's negative: 9/4/13. - Wystan

J.B. Joel (LOC)

Bain News Service,, publisher.

J.B. Joel

1913 September 14 (date created or published later by Bain)

1 negative : glass ; 5 x 7 in. or smaller.

Notes:
 Title and date from data provided by the Bain News Service on the negative.
Photo shows Jack Barnato Joel (1862-1940), formerly Isaac Joel, a South African mining magnate and racehorse owner and breeder. (Source: Flickr Commons Project, 2010)
Forms part of: George Grantham Bain Collection (Library of Congress).

Format: Glass negatives.

Rights Info: No known restrictions on publication.

Repository: Library of Congress, Prints and Photographs Division, Washington, D.C. 20540 USA, hdl.loc.gov/loc.pnp/pp.print

General information about the Bain Collection is available at hdl.loc.gov/loc.pnp/pp.ggbain

Persistent URL: hdl.loc.gov/loc.pnp/ggbain.14254

Call Number: LC-B2- 2825-6

Comments and faves

  1. ★

    Bitxuverinosa, standard ||| grey, Michael C. Hsiung, 12th St David (taking a breather), and 32 other people added this photo to their favorites.

  2. Mobilus In Mobili (36 months ago | reply)

    Hmm, he seems a little depressed!

  3. maorlando-God sustained me 2011 walking w/ me 2012 (36 months ago | reply)

    Excellent portrait...this is surely how he was seen most of the time...I do not smoke but I do not begrudge those that do any more than those who drink, many more people have lost their lives to drunkeness, that is one driving under the influence of alcohol, and many more homes & families have been destroyed due to alcohol... than to smoking which only harms one's self primarily....interestingly!!!

  4. gt_hawk63 (36 months ago | reply)

    Check the sheen on that topper!

  5. maorlando-God sustained me 2011 walking w/ me 2012 (36 months ago | reply)

    Preakness Winners - In 1918 the Horse War Cloud-Jack Hare Jr. won and the Owners were W. E. Applegate & A. K. Macomber, the Trainers were F. D. Weir & W. B. Jennings, the Jockeys were John Loftus & Charles Peak, and the Breeders were J. B. Joel & W. E. Walsh.
    Wonder if this J.B. Joel the Breeder of the 1918 Preakness Winner, War Cloud-Jack Hare Jr. could possible be the same J.B. Joel? Also think the date on the photo is 9/4/13.

  6. chezarie (36 months ago | reply)

    Dashing gent !

  7. Juanbpn. (36 months ago | reply)

    Thanks for the photography,Merry Christmas.Greetings.

  8. swanq (36 months ago | reply)

    www.tbheritage.com/Breeders/SABreeding/SABree ders.html
    has a picture of the mining magnate and racehorse owner/breeder, J.B. (Jack Barnato) Joel. Could be the same guy.

    www.horseracinghistory.co.uk/hrho/action/view Document?id=942 provides a brief bio

  9. vidalia_11 (36 months ago | reply)

    They need to bring back the top hat. Very classy.

  10. swanq (36 months ago | reply)

    www.gettyimages.com/detail/3445031/Hulton-Arc hive
    looks like the same guy -- also in a topper, and leading Humorist, his Derby winner of 1921 -- the horse died of TB soon after.
    www.horseracinghistory.co.uk/hrho/action/view Document?id=942
    confirms that Jack Barnato Joel was the owner of Humorist. He was not American (as in the Getty Images caption) but British/South African.

  11. budderflyman (36 months ago | reply)

    I would argue with the comment that "many more people have lost their lives to drunkeness than to smoking." First of all, I would argue that most people who die from drinking did not even die from drunkeness, but rather heavy drinking over a number of years which can lead to liver, pancreas, brain, lung, heart and/or heart damage. However, the number of people who die from drinking related illness is nowhere near the hundreds of thousands who die from smoking related illnesses. Smoking is the number one cause of death in the United States besides normal aging, thus it is the number one preventable cause of death. One in five deaths is due to smoking according to the American Cancer Society.

    Smoking does not harm just the self. It is well documented that second hand smoke indeed is a major health hazard.

  12. allan56 (36 months ago | reply)

    The Joel family were Jewish South African diamond/gold tycoons. I believe J.B. Joel was nephew to the famous Barney Barnato, who played a huge role in S.A. diamond and gold mining in the late 1800s.

  13. Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (36 months ago | reply)

    Jack Barnato Joel (1862-1940) would have been 50 in 1912. This guy looks like he is about 30 years old.

  14. Barbara (LOC P&P) (36 months ago | reply)

    I have searched in vain for another photo in Library of Congress collections to try to confirm that this is Jack Barnato Joel. It seems quite possible that this is Bain's copy of an earlier photograph, which would explain the youthful appearance, and some of the facial characteristics look similar to (though perhaps a bit more debonair than!) the image swanq pointed to at www.tbheritage.com/Breeders/SABreeding/SABree ders.html.

  15. Henry Barnett (36 months ago | reply)

    My name is Henry Barnett and JBJ is my 1st cousin (3x removed). This is J B Joel, who was born Isaac Joel and changed his name to Jack Barnato. He had two brothers, Woolf Joel and Solomon Joel. Woolf was murdered in SA in 1888 and Solomon or Solly beacme the head of the company "Barnato Brothers" on Barney Barnato's death in 1897. Harry, his brother and Barney were their uncles. Solly Joel owned Pommern who won the Triple Crown (2000 Guineas, Derby, St Leger) with Steve Donoghue up in 1915. His stud was the Home Farm Stud in Erlegh near Reading. It was finally closed in 1980.

    I was actually born in Erlegh!

  16. Barbara (LOC P&P) (36 months ago | reply)

    Henry Barnett: Thanks so much for confirming the identification and for all the information!

  17. Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (23 months ago | reply)

    I started an entry in Wikipedia:
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Barnato_Joel

  18. petdav2011 (21 months ago | reply)

    My Grandfather (Alfred Bolingbroke Clement Davis) Alf for short, became JBJ`s chauffeur shortly after leaving the Royal Naval Air Service at the end of WW 1. He and my Grandmother had 4 children, 2 of which (my father included) were born at Childwickbury where their home (Beesonend House) was tied to the job. Alfred & family moved to St. Albans upon JB`s death in 1940. I understand a "Town" chauffeur was also employed in London for JB`s business purposes.My father said it was an idyllic place to be bought up on the Estate at Childwickbury near Harpenden Herts.

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